Don Oberdorfer and Problem of Establishment Korea Policy
by James Na ~ July 13th, 2006. Filed under: Engagement, Fiskings, North Korea, U.S.-Korea Relations, Washington Views.
If Bruce Cumings is the dean of the moonbat, leftie “It’s all America’s fault” school of Korea-related policy in the United States, surely Don Oberdorfer is the American dean of “the Establishment” view on Korea.
Oberdorfer wrote for the Washington Post for years and eventually retired from journalism to the comfy surroundings of Nitze School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS) at John Hopkins University in northwest D.C. His book on the Koreas, The Two Koreas: A Contemporary History (reviewed by our own Richardson) is considered a must for anyone seriously examining Korea-related issues.
I recently had a chance to observe him in person at a Sejong Society event in D.C. If Cumings can be summarized as “It’s all America’s fault,” Oberdorfer’s current views can be summarized as “Engagement works” and “It’s all Bush administration’s fault.”
Without a doubt Oberdorfer knows much about Korea, having first served there as a U.S. military officer in the aftermath of the Korean War. His many interviews with the “great men” of both Koreas have added much value to English-speaking audiences interested in Korea.
And he is right about one thing. At the recent talk, he spoke of the rather spotty mainstream media coverage of Korea, especially about the fact that, too often, Korea has been covered by Western journalists resident in Tokyo (he became a bit trite, however, when he went on to say that Japan and Korea are opposites, the Japanese are subtle while Koreans are as subtle as Kimchi, and that he “really felt for Koreans” when he left Korea while he felt no such thing when he left Japan).
His recommendation to the mostly young audience, thus, was that if you wrote a book on Korea (as he did), “you can get on everybody’s Rolodex.”
Or — if you are as lazy as I am and don’t want to write a whole book — you can start a blog on Korea with two people who know what they are doing. I don’t know about Rolodexes, but you sure do get on people’s Blackberry’s rather quickly (more so when Kim Jong-il is firing off missiles, of course).
More seriously, I do not share Oberdorfer’s lamentations of the episodic coverage that the mainstream American media give to Korea. After all, that is what a blog like this is for. By nature, it is impossible for a mainstream media outlet that aims to serve 50 million general viewers or readers to cover a topic like North Korea in depth. A blog that caters to, say, 10,000 people who are more than casually interested in Korea can be much more effective and, I dare say, erudite (not to mention timely). Call it the power of niche specialization.
During the talk, Oberdorfer largely minimized the latest provocations from Pyongyang, stating that since the North Korean missile moratorium was “self-declared only because of pressure from the U.S.,” the North Korean violation of the same was not a big deal. In other words, these are their missiles, and they can do what they wish with them.
He further went on to declare that the Clinton administration was working on a viable deal with North Korea when the 2000 election intervened. Then the Bush administration came to power, according to him, and “was against everything Clinton was for,” thus suggesting that the current North Korea problem is of Bush’s making. This view is remarkably similar to the rash of revisionist “Clinton had it under control” myth being perpetuated by the former Clintonites of late. In other words, if only the Bush administration gave Kim Jong-il what he wanted for his poor starving people, all would be well.
One woman in the audience asked in a thick Asian accent (looking a little like a North Korean agent — or a South Korean one, for that matter — but I jest a little) how the North Korean missile tests are different from Indian missile tests, and why (in an accusatory tone) the U.S. is treating the two differently. Oberdorfer’s answer was “There is no difference. The differences are of political nature. There is no difference, legally.” At this response, I struggled to remember the last time the Indian government threatened to turn Islamabad or anywhere else, for that matter, into “a sea of fire.”
Oberdorfer’s mantra is “engagement.” It is true, there are not many good options in dealing with North Korea’s regime, but engagement, especially the likes of “Sunshine,” has been an utter failure (please somebody read him “Dane Geld” which Joshua so helpfully reproduced on TKL).
On refugees and defectors, too, there was a revealing moment. Another person in the audience asked whether Oberdorfer has interviewed any defectors. Oberdorfer paused for a moment and then said Hwang Jeong-Yop was the only one he interviewed. He said he simply did not have an opportunity to interview other defectors (you know, the ordinary types who only know of suffering, repression and hardship and none of the benefits of being close to Kim Il-sung). Then somewhat strangely, he began to answer what the questioner did not ask, and talk about how he “believe[s] what they [the defectors] saw, but not what they think.”
I, for one, would be the first to argue that one always ought to treat testimony from defectors with a healthy dose of skepticism. Defectors are, indeed, ofen eager to please their hosts. Whatever they say should be vetted with other known information. Oberdorfer’s tone and choice of words on this topic, however, were dismissive of defectors and their relevance to the larger Korea isssues.
What dawned on me as I listened to Oberdorfer was that he represented the classic Establishment view about North Korea — that it is a dangerous country only because we treat it belligerently, and that a sustained American effort at “dialogue” with the North would coax it out of its isolation and hostility. It is, essentially, the view of those who are quite comfortable with the status quo on the Korean Peninsula as exists today. Despite the occasional rhetoric otherwise, people who subscribe to this view are not particularly concerned about the suffering of million in North Korea nor are they deeply concerned about the potentially lethal threats of North Korean nuclear and ballistic missile proliferation.
The Establishment still lives in the Age of the Nation-State and, frankly, the Cold War. Just as they were willing to accept the Soviet Union as a fact of life to live with so long as its behavior could be ameliorated a little, they see the existence of North Korea’s vile regime as an established fact of the international system. They think they can coax a bit better behavior out of it by “engaging” with it rather then attempt to demolish the monstrosity that it is.
And that, I think, is the problem with the likes of Don Oberdorfer.



July 13th, 2006 at 6:40 pm
James, thanks for the excellent summary.
Oberdorfer wrote a very good book, but when he speaks it sounds like a different person. He’s been on NPR a few times and came off as much less objective than in his book those times as well.
I’d like to ask him if Clinton has things under such fantastic control and had such a great deal lined up, why did North Korea begin uranium enrichment in 1998?
Overall, I’m glad I wasn’t able to attend that, and I hope he doesn’t ruin his book by updating it with his current outlook.
July 13th, 2006 at 7:17 pm
Interestingly, that is exactly the position of Cummings, with whom the only real difference the likes of Oberdorfer have is the latter don’t feel guilty or apologetic, believing the beeligerence and hostility of the past were more than justified by NORK conduct and don’t harbor any sort of sentimental attachment for the imagined achievements of the Kim regime.
July 14th, 2006 at 12:59 am
Oberdorfer’s ideas as reflected above are consistent with his updated conclusion and afterword in the 2001 revised edition. Reading through that edition you might think that two different people wrote the body and then the conclusion. His fascination with the “success” of the June 2000 summit in contrast to the “unpredictable” policies of the United States speak volumes of his perspective.
The research and product he provides us with in that book is invaluable. It’s his conclusion which appears to have become only more entrenched that we should be skeptical of. If he still maintains as he did in 2001 that Sunshine works then his book should be treated as more of a data reference than a thought-provoker and guide for policy.
July 15th, 2006 at 1:52 am
“It’s all America’s fault” people are NOT on the “left”. These are people I like to call, “the self-described left,” or “ultra right-wing fruitcakes in disguise”. the traditional left in america is not only extremely patriotic, (witness FDR and World War II,) adamently anti-fascist, and socially and economically “liberal,” (supporting free-trade, socially progressive “out-of-the-box” ideas on health care, law enforcement, education and religion.) Today’s “neo-conservatives” (NOT self-described as such,) fit the mold much more closely than these “ultra right-wing fruitcakes in disguise,” e.g. portions of the Democratic, Republican and Green Parties. These people would use the military to enforce domestic political correctness, rather than spread democracy, and right wrongs abroad. Unfortunately, they will only go away if we ignore them completely (including not voting for them.)
July 15th, 2006 at 7:51 am
Noam Chomsky, Bruce Cumings (i.e., America blamers), et al are pretty much polar opposites of neocons and so are their believers. A nice touch of creative revisionism (spin), but not close to reality.
July 15th, 2006 at 2:43 pm
exactly my point.
July 15th, 2006 at 8:28 pm
What’s your point?
“Ultra right-wing fruitcakes in disguise”? Whaaat???!!!
Cumings, Chomsky, Moore, Sheehan are NOT, I repeat, are NOT, “right wing fruitcakes.” That’s a bizzarre inversion.
They are part of the radical left, support the fringe lunatic elements of the Democratic party that is increasingly dominating the agenda of the party in a sustained fit of Bush-hatred.
July 15th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
I guess you didn’t get it, Douglas. The folks I mentioned are America-hating-lefties. And it would be hard to call most on the right, “PC.” If you still don’t get this; I’m saying you’re all wrong.
July 16th, 2006 at 11:43 pm
your analyses (Richardson and James) are dominated by an “us and them mentality”, rather than a knowledge of the meaning of “right” versus “left”. otherwise, i was actually taking your side, but you are incapable of even knowing what your own side IS!!! (once again, the “neocons” are NOT on the right, and these “America-hating-lefties” actually are ultra right-wing.) not surprising that you can’t understand this, considering the tautological nature of your own comments. this “debate” is over. good luck with all that!
July 16th, 2006 at 11:51 pm
this board is obviously far to partisan for a true political independent such as myself to post on. moderator: please feel free to delete my comments.
July 17th, 2006 at 6:10 am
Douglas, as long as what you say is at least semi-related to the topic, and not profane or abusive, you can say about whatever you want. But if you call up “down,” don’t get upset when someone points that out.
A chance to redeem your opinion; point out some “right-wing” folks that fit the mold you describe.
July 18th, 2006 at 1:26 pm
The lout, having failed to convince by logic, throws up epithets and, in a huff, vacates the scene.